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Ideas & Brainstorming / Re: Being Blind and Why it's Ridiculous
« Last post by Jadyss on 12/09/19, 01:59 »
Still an important issue in 2019! Almost 2020 haha.
General Discussion / Guess who's back
« Last post by Jadyss on 12/04/19, 01:12 »
back again. Mike is back. Tell a friend.

First started playing late 2003. Think around 2007 I quit all mudding. I'd have to ask someone to look up if they had my original pfile. I did the dumb delete thing but I believe there was a pwipe here anyway later on. Came back in 2013. Played for a bit. Got annoyed at some things. Turning 40 and now mudding again the past month. I don't give a *bleep* about RP that much so I'm back to enjoy the mechanics and world and grind.

edit. original character name was Fayrae Isliraed the Soulreaver.
General Discussion / I'm around!
« Last post by Rhumbolt on 06/11/16, 12:20 »
I'm new, sort of, and around for awhile! Come visit!
Game Info and Documentation / Areas not present on current maps
« Last post by Rhumbolt on 06/11/16, 12:18 »

I've found just a couple so far, but they can be a real pain if you don't know where they are, so!

1. Abandoned Tunnels: directly east of DragonClaw Mountains

2. Bloodhawk Falls: south of Maryk's Altar, it's the SECOND southeast
Game Info and Documentation / Re: walks from tolin (so far)
« Last post by Thalia on 08/16/15, 06:45 »
Point of clarification -- Most (all?) of these walks start from Tolin Questmaster - Kayla.

If you are starting from the recall point (the fountain), then remove the initial N;NE or N;NW.
Fifteen years.

That is not an insignificant amount of time. A lot of hours have gone into building, coding, paying the bills, reading the notes, developing characters and watching stories play out - from imm to player and back again. We still have a handful of players such as Daklore or Sephrenia who were on our prior MUD, Realm of the Crystal Dragon (RCD). It was a fun game that was made better by the players who occupied it. When things started to fall apart around the owners of the game, Tear and Volo, my wife and I realized that we had simply outgrown RCD. We had our own ideas we wanted to implement. We wanted to treat players in a different way. Some of those things we got right almost immediately, many of them we didn't, but we were willing to learn and adapt as needed.

Of course things were never perfect - and really no game is. Everyone wants different things from their gaming experience, and I learned a long time ago that there was never making everyone happy, but all in all I have been quite happy with what we produced over the years. Over a hundred areas, tons of original code and some pretty memorable characters and stories over the years - some I participated in, many I just sat back, grabbed some popcorn so to speak, and watched them evolve.

Lots of things have changed since we first started. The people on the staff. The players playing the game. Races, religions, Armengar - it was always an interesting balance of wanting to create more and new content while going back on to improve the existing stuff. If we were working from the ground up once again, I imagine we would do things quite a bit differently (the number of Scattered Ashes conversations Thalia and I have had over the years are numerous). Heck, we nearly went in a completely different direction back when Farnite was looking at making a PvP heavy MUD based on Godwars code set in the time of the Dragon-Kalchi War.

Fifteen years. For some perspective - my oldest kid is 19. My son is 16. My youngest? Yup, she's 13. The MUD is older than one of my teenage kids.

My hope this upcoming weekend is to get some advertisement out there in a few players to announce the 15 years, maybe rope in some new players and maybe as a result we will see some things pick up. Of course there are multiple reasons why new players stick it out or leave. Some if it is the writing in the newbie zone - or even color combinations (one player many years ago logged out after about five rooms and cussed me out on open channels for giving them a headache because it looked like someone threw up Skittles all over our MUD). Everyone's different - you can't make 'em all happy - but I much prefer when people are in fact happy and enjoying their time here. The biggest reason why a player is likely to stay or go is their interactions with other players.

MUDs are a social experience - so treat each other well. We don't all always get along, and that's fine - but how it gets handled is important as well. I think the game tends to make a good impression on new players more often than not, but existing players and staff (myself absolutely included) play a part in keeping them coming back. I don't imagine we'll ever see those 50+ a night player lists (unless I cheat again like I did a couple of years ago and log in every one of mine and Gillian's 100ish characters), but we can enjoy the people we do have when they have the time to play.

I can honestly say that fifteen years of running Kingdoms of the Lost has been a great overall experience for me. I don't personally have the time to sink four, six, nine hours a day into building, coding and socializing on the site, but it has been a near-daily part of my life for a decade and a half now. I have met a lot of really nice, interesting people. I have learned how to code (badly I might add - thank you for fixing it all, Thalia!). I had a chance to spend a lot of time writing my own stories and reading those of others. I am definitely not the same guy I was at 24 years old when Gilly and I decided it was time to try and make our own MUD, but I am undoubtedly better for the experience.

Thank you to all of you. Kingdoms of the Lost is the sum of its parts - the people who play it, those who help to build it, individuals who code it. I look forward to seeing you around!

- Nick
Game Info and Documentation / walks from tolin (so far)
« Last post by medieduha on 07/23/15, 02:34 »

"tolin walks"

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.5w4n

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.5w5n;nw;nw;n;ne;ne;n;nw;n;u;w;u;n;n;sw;nw;nw;nw;w;nw;nw;u;n;nw;sw;nw;u;w;nw;nw;n;u;u;e;n;n;d;w;w

n;nw;.7e2s;se;se;se;se;se;se;se;se;.9s5e5s2ene2s2w6s;se;se;se;.4n3w7neu;open north;n

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.5w3n6e4n4w2s2es

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.5w7n4wn

 north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4s2ws2w

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se2s2en

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3ws3wn

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3ws2w3s2wn

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3ws2w3s2w3s3w2s

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3w2ses2e

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3w2se6s4w

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3w2se10swn

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w4se4s3w2se10sw5swn

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w7n;northwest

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w5nw;northwest;southwest;south;northwest

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6nw2n

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w2n;northeast;.3enen2e

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w2n;northeast;.3ene5n3e;southeast;northeast;northeast

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w2n;northeast;.3ene5n3e;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;southwest;.2s4w2s;southeast;.2e

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w2n;northeast;.3ene5n3e;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;.4e2s2wn

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w2n;northeast;.3ene5n3e;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;.4e2s2w2s2e

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w2n;northeast;.3ene5n3e;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;.4e4n2w;northwest;.2ws

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.2es

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.5e3nw;southwest;.2w

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.6e;southeast;southeast;.2e;southeast;.2e2n;northwest;.wne

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.6e;southeast;southeast;.2e;southeast;.3se3s2e2s2w

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.6e;southeast;southeast;.2e;southeast;.3se3s2e2s2e

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.6e;southeast;southeast;.2e;southeast;.3se3s2e4sws;southeast;southeast;.s2w;northwest;northwest

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.6e;southeast;southeast;.2e;southeast;.3se3sw3s2w3s6e2s3e

north;northwest;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.2w3s2w2s;open south;.3s2w6ne2ne6n;east;northeast;northeast;.4e;southeast;.6e;southeast;southeast;.2e;southeast;.3se3sw3s2w3s3e9s2w2s3w2n



















n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.5w3n3e3n4w;nw;w;w;w;s

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.5w3n;nw;nw;w;w;w;s;s;s;s;s;d

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.7w3sw

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.7w3s;sw;w

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.7w3s;sw; .3w;sw; .4s

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.7w3s;sw;w

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.5w3n4e;nw;nw;nw;e

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.5w7n3w2s;sw;.4w;nw;n;n;n;n

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.7wn

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n;nw;nw;ne

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2nw3n;nw;w;w;w

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n5w4n;nw;nw;nw;nw;nw

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n6w4n

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n7w2nw

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n8w

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n7w;sw;sw;n

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n7w;sw;sw;sw;sw;s;s;s;s;s;s

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n6w5s;se

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.w2n5w3se

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.9w2n3w;se;se;se;s;s;s

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8sw6s2e;sw

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;se

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.2w4s4e

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.7w3s;se;se;3e;n

n;se;give 1 gold jack;.2w8s3w;sw;.4w2s;give 5 gold fer

"Darkest Knight"
n;nw;.9ws2w10s3w4s2w5sw;open west;.2w4n4wn;open north; .4nw2se2s2w

n;nw;.9ws2w10s3w4s2w5sw;open west;.2w4n4w2n;open north; .3nw2se4sw3sw

"kingdom walks"



n;nw;.9ws2w10s3w4s2w5sw;open west;.2w3s;open east;e

open west;.w3ne;open east;.2e5n2e4n3e10n2en9e;se;s

n;nw;.9w4ne7n3w5n3w6n6w2nw;open west;.4w3s3w

.3e3n3e;open east;.2e2s6e6s3e5s3e7sw4s9e;se;s



n;nw; .4ne;open east;e; .3u; ent po; .3n; open north; .6n;sw

ne; .5s;open south; .4s;ent po; .3d;open west; .2w4s;se;s

.n;nw;.14n8e3nene5n2en;open north;n;ne;.8e;se;open south;.2s3e3n2e3ne3nw3n2e2n;nw;w;w;open west;.5w;open south;s

open north;n;e;e;e;e;open east;e;e;e;se;.2s2w3se3sw3s2w3s3wn;open north;n;nw;.8w;sw;open south;.2s2w5swsw3s8w14s;se;s

n;northwest; .7e2s;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast;southeast; .9s5e5s2ene2s2w6s2w;open west;w

open east; .3e6n2e2nws2w5n5w9n;northwest;northwest;northwest;northwest;northwest;northwest;northwest;northwest;northwest; .2n7w;southeast;s

please do enjoy and ill have more in soon

Ideas & Brainstorming / Library idea
« Last post by nuk on 07/06/15, 19:38 »
I shot this out briefly a couple times but here it is.

So I think its pretty well known that there is a few people on this mud you ask things from and some people who you ask and hope they don't feel frisky. Exploring the mud is a great way to find out secrets and tricks and making friends you can expand the knowledge pool and gain great insight.

My proposal is a library located off one of the towns , Calararian or tolin make good areas to branch the zone off from. Inside this area would be many bookshelves with books you could pull out and inside of these would contain information maps with visual indications of where they were. (combined with area full you would always know where to go) There could be equipment logs written by mages of gear and the stats it contains. WANT fire resist? get Book of Elemental Defense bookshelf. read elemental.

I wonder if the books could be made to not be put in bags the zone not able to be recalled or gated from and the books now allowed to leave the zone , if they were dropped the librarians would put them back in the bookshelf and they were not able to be sacced.

could even add a shady figure who appears randomly and sells journals and books for different prices of tokens (smal and large depending on secret) stuff like directions through bignars and gdi . how to become a dracolich. vampire sitings so on and so forth

once again i am down for putting work in , any thoughts?
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